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  Question about the number 2,520 and the book “New Heavens and a New Earth” (1953)

  by Hecce in

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  question about the number 2,520 and the book “new heavens and a new earth” (1953).

  there is a footnote on page 138 of this book; it has to do with the number 2,520 being a perfect number and the result of multiplying the four perfect numbers in sequence.

  i have done the math and it works.

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  Nathan Natas

  I don't recall that at the moment, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. If the WTB&TS did say that, wouldn't they be practicing NUMEROLOGY?
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  Don't know what to do

  by looter in

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  i'm in a crazy situation.

  about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.

  it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.

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  Nathan Natas

  PS - if you went to the recruiter and told them you were 18 now, they'll forgive you later.

  PPS - my apologies to other posters who suggested military service before I did - I didn't read through the entire thread before I posted.

  Others have said, "get a job". Doing WHAT? You have no real credentials right now. Unless you seek a career stocking supermarket shelves, you can do better than this.

  Others say "Sue the WT!" HOW will you pay your lawyers? Where will you live while you're suing the WT? Bad plan.

  Others say, "pursue your education" How will you pay for that education and where will you live?

  Talk to your school counselors and ask them what they think of military service. If they discourage you, ignore them and talk to a recruiter. YES, you will have to maintain a "teachable" attitude to make it a success. That is what most recruits do. If you're a jackass, the military will toss you out and you can then follow all these other not-so-excellent ideas.

  The military will provide you with housing, training, discipline and loads of other good things if you are smart enough to behave yourself and follow instructions without developing a self-destructive attitude. When you finish you will prepared to manage the rest of your life.
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  To me this seams like more than a coincidence ...

  by Greybeard in

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  2. friends

  sorry if this has been discussed before.... for a few days now, this question has been going through my mind.

  what was the date the governing body took the sole role of the faithful and discreet slave and how close was it to the end of the mayan calendar in december of 2012?

  i looked it up on jwfactes.com and sure enough, checkout the date on this article:.

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  Nathan Natas

  Greybeard, we are lucky indeed to have you warning us about the dangers of parasites AND that you are a vendor of the remedy!

  Your motives are beyond reproach, aren't they?
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  Don't know what to do

  by looter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm in a crazy situation.

  about a year ago, i was going to get baptized.

  it was all planned and arranged until ttatt was learned.

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  Nathan Natas

  I like Scully's advice.

  Another option, IN MY OPINION, (the caps are for the benefit of those who don't think I should have an opinion that differs from theirs) is this:

  Join the military.

  Of course, if you're an obese and unintelligent couch-potato, this WILL NOT WORK, because they won't have you.

  On the other hand, if you are reasonably fit and reasonably intelligent, this could be an excellent way to provide almost immediate housing and employment for you, AND it has the added benefit of flipping your Dad the Great Big BIRD.

  The military will teach you how to be a responsible adult if you avoid linking up with "bad associations."

  Depending on how you do on the tests, you could find yourself doing an important job that doesn't put you in harm's way.

  People (especially JWs) often think "early death" when they hear "military."

  How many kids in your area and of your age die in stupid car accidents or stupid drinking games or bar fights, or from heroin overdoses? All of those are TRUELY meaningless deaths. If you die in the military doing the job you're there to do, your death is not meaningless.

  Bot MOST of the folks who enter the military DO NOT DIE! They complete their tours of duty and come back to civilian life with a stronger sense of self and with skills that will continue to serve them.

  That's my two cents. YOU are the captain of your ship and the Master of your fate.

  Whatever you do, be wise. THINK. Then act with confidence.
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  A Big Hello From Mouthy/Grace and.....

  by label licker in

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  2. friends

  a special message to her daughter, ann marie if you are watching this site.

  your mother is eighty-eight now and her memory is going fast.

  please call her, ann marie.

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  Nathan Natas

  This is sad to hear, but not unexpected.

  Although the WTB&TS claims otherwise, death (and often, the decline that precedes it) is a NATURAL part of the "circle of life."

  Many times in the recent past Grace spoke of her willingness to meet her personal end.

  She will be remembered by all who had the privilege of knowing her for her youthful spirit, her sense of humor and her willingness to help others avoid the snare that complicated her life.

  I loved her, in a totally appropriate and non-sensual way.
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  To me this seams like more than a coincidence ...

  by Greybeard in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  sorry if this has been discussed before.... for a few days now, this question has been going through my mind.

  what was the date the governing body took the sole role of the faithful and discreet slave and how close was it to the end of the mayan calendar in december of 2012?

  i looked it up on jwfactes.com and sure enough, checkout the date on this article:.

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  Nathan Natas

  Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

  WINNER - funniest post of the hour!
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  Why I like the Mormons and why they are so much nicer then the JWs.

  by new boy in

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  i never really knew any until recently.

  as a witness we all thought they were weird.

  but the two faiths are a lot alike, except the mormons are really so much nicer than the jws!.

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  I have to agree with JustFine. I have worked for an LDS bishop and I have worked with members of his family and members of his congregation. All were honest and dependable guys.

  I do think the LDS has a much better view of the family and higher education than the WTB&TS will ever have.

  A funny story - I was in upper NYS for a few weeks and one of my LDS co-workers was also there for a different purpose. Our weekends were full of "nothing-to-do," so I made a proposal: we would drive over to Hill Cumorah in Manchester, New York IF he would come to the midnight showing of "The Rocky Horror Picture Show" with me when we got back from Hill Cumorah. He agreed. I saw Hill Cumorah through the eyes of a sociologist, and I got to enjoy seeing my friend deal with the "risque" elements of TRHPS and the audience participation therein. He survived undamaged, though I am sure he doubted he would. We remained friends until our jobs took us in different directions.
  

  Anyone who wants some insight into the LDS would benefit by reading "Under the Banner of Heaven: A Story of Violent Faith" by Jon Krakauer (2004) and watch the video "THE LOST BOOK OF ABRAHAM - investigating a remarkable Mormon claim" for FREE at http://www.bookofabraham.info/.
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  i cant wait for the new system

  by stan livedeath in

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  Nathan Natas

  but... I'm a DUDE, Dude!

  Isn't it odd how the JW paradise is an eternal free-lunch counter in which they never again have to lift a finger for anything because Jah-El, our of gratitude for a few years of their PURE WORSHIP, will feed these dub-tubeworms to time indefinite.
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  Powerball Jackpot up to 1.3 Billion Dollars. Do you think the governing body bought any tickets?

  by My Name is of No Consequence in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  what if the governing body members bought a ticket or somehow obtained one.

  then the unthinkable happens...they won!

  how would they be able to hide that?

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  Nathan Natas

  I would expect that, guided by Jah's Magic Spirit and Whiz-Dumb, they would buy 2.6 billion tickets.
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  shunning is bad

  by Sabin in

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  so i had a phone conversation last night, i'm not proud of myself but that is how the cookie crumbles.

  started off all well & good then up came the arc which i was informed was all propaganda & the oct 2012 polices i got from the internet are apostate & not true.

  so i lost the plot, completely lost it, & let out everything i was feeling.

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  Nathan Natas

  Frankenstein's monster: "Rrrrr! Fire G O O D!"